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. >> it was the rachel maddow show, come on guys, we should be hurting them, not helping them. >> so we had to stop for ten minutes to put a little thing in about celebrities and that bothers me -- >> thank you, rachel. >> we had momentum in the show, the show was going great and we had to sit here awkwardly while tucker showed us his tie. i did not mean to impune your tie, but someone needs impuning. >> don't take it out on us. >> i know, there's no diet coke in the green room. >> and do not take it out on me bass i look like rachel. >> this app, you use it to avoid people you do not like. where do i start? >> should have used it for this show tonight, greg. >> i'm still mad. >> all right, jedidiah, you are an attractive woman in a big city, would you use it to avoid bill or people you know? >> i use stuff like this anyway. i am mad that andy levy or myself did not invent it, we could have collaborated, andy if you are listening? who doesn't want to their friends? >> i don't know, i have seen your friends, i would to. can we disconnect? >> i men, this is no different from the rest o
. >> it was the rachel maddow show, come on guys, we should be hurting them, not helping them. >> so we had to stop for ten minutes to put a little thing in about celebrities and that bothers me -- >> thank you, rachel. >> we had momentum in the show, the show was going great and we had to sit here awkwardly while tucker showed us his tie. i did not mean to impune your tie, but someone needs impuning. >> don't take it out on us. >> i know, there's no diet...
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rachel jeantel, the girl who was on the phone with trayvon when he died. does her race have anything to do with how people perceive her credibility. >>> and aaron hernandez's dangerous past. how in the world did he end up with a $40 million contract from the patriots? >>> plus the obama administration repeatedly going after another leaker, but this time, he's a close friend of the president of the united states. >>> and what led to a brawl at a drag queen beauty pageant? you'll see it in full. ♪ [ girl ] there are man-eating sharks in every ocean... but we still swim. every second, somewhere in the world, lightning strikes... but we still play in the rain. poisonous snakes can be found in 49 of the 50 states, but we still go looking for adventure. a car can crash... a house can crumble... but we still drive... and love coming home. because i think deep down we know... all the bad things that can happen in life... they can't stop us from making our lives... good. ♪ ♪ to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mo
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. >> reporter: rachel jeantel was on the phone with trayvon martin, just seconds before neighborhood watchman george zimmerman shot him february 2012. she testified that zimmerman followed him and then confronted him. but hundreds of questions from the defense, challenges her account of the pivotal moment. >> it could have been trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face, is what you heard. >> what? >> yeah. just earlier today. >> by who? >> she has given the defense ammunition to argue that her testimony shouldn't be considered by the jury. >> reporter: throughout jeantel, squirmed in her seat. sometimes seemed combative. zimmerman's defense not only attacking her liability, but also exposing her inability to read this letter. >> can you read any of the words on it? >> i don't understand. cursive. i don't read cursive. >> reporter: throughout the day, she seemed to stick to her core testimony, that it was zimmerman that followed martin. and martin was afraid of zimmerman. matt gutman, abc news, sanford, florida. >>> a bishop has been arrested as the church tries to clean up
. >> reporter: rachel jeantel was on the phone with trayvon martin, just seconds before neighborhood watchman george zimmerman shot him february 2012. she testified that zimmerman followed him and then confronted him. but hundreds of questions from the defense, challenges her account of the pivotal moment. >> it could have been trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face, is what you heard. >> what? >> yeah. just earlier today. >> by who? >> she has...
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for "good morning america," rachel smith, hol, california. >> paula faris, what was your favorite? >> tree house. >> tree house. >> although -- >> anything can change your mind? >> no wine cellar. but nothing compares to swiss family robinson. >> woman's got to have her fantasy. >>> it's the cronut, making its way across the country, lots of variati variations, we're going to taste test. after this break. la that instantly brightens skin. and helps reduce the look of brown spots in just 4 weeks. for healthy radiant skin. try it for a month. then go ahead and try to spot a spot. aveeno® positively radiant. naturally beautiful results. >>> and it is time for fixation. one thing about "good morning america." i think we can agree we like to eat. >> yes. >> we love food. in new york city, the biggest craze, the cronut. nothing better than fried dough. it's exhibit a, from the bakery in new york, fried dough, infuses the croissant with the donut. >> good explanation. >> thank you, appreciate that. been working on it. they make 250 a day. >> nick watt found a long line and resorted to ex
for "good morning america," rachel smith, hol, california. >> paula faris, what was your favorite? >> tree house. >> tree house. >> although -- >> anything can change your mind? >> no wine cellar. but nothing compares to swiss family robinson. >> woman's got to have her fantasy. >>> it's the cronut, making its way across the country, lots of variati variations, we're going to taste test. after this break. la that instantly brightens...
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day four, the same friend, rachel, returned to the witness stand and very different demeanor. challenged by the defense about inconsistencies in her testimony. and yesterday we heard from a neighbor who probably had the best view of the struggle between the two men. let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug burns. doug, quite a first week in any case. this one in particular. i want to start by playing a sou soundbite of trayvon martin's friend who said she heard him say certain things that she's only really telling us now. listen. >> i heard trayvon saying get off, get off. >> a letter on march 19. at month time did you mention that you heard ray votrayvon ma say get off, get off, get off. correct? is that yes, did you not say that? >> yes. >> lot of people say she mumbles. i don't know if that's an intentional strategy but what she said is -- for the first time, she's telling not in to the incident but much later get off, get off is what she said. she didn't put tonight a letter, she didn't tell to it investigators or trayvon martin's mother. at that point is should the d
day four, the same friend, rachel, returned to the witness stand and very different demeanor. challenged by the defense about inconsistencies in her testimony. and yesterday we heard from a neighbor who probably had the best view of the struggle between the two men. let's bring in former federal prosecutor doug burns. doug, quite a first week in any case. this one in particular. i want to start by playing a sou soundbite of trayvon martin's friend who said she heard him say certain things that...
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this came two days after we watched rachel, who was the girl that martin talked to on the phone. she gave inconsistent and at times didn't seem like she was not wanting to be there and edgy at moments and we have testimony of john good win. and doug joins me now a former federal prosecutor. >> thank you. >> you said you have to be careful what you are watching in this is points being put on the board very carefully. we don't have a full picture yet in terms of the way it is going. >> no, a trial is like a roller coaster and sports contest. one team makes a play. oh, that's it and they are dominating and guess what they make a come back. i analyze trial and don't like to say this means the defense wins or prosecutor wins. it is a paint. they are like painters. prosecutors want to paint it on canvass that it was a s if fight. you can't kill the person if you are losing. defense is painting, no, no, no. s if fight and grave risk of seriously bodily harm or death and it is hard to figure out. you can't say broken nose and lacerations and therefore he couldn't have died. who is to say
this came two days after we watched rachel, who was the girl that martin talked to on the phone. she gave inconsistent and at times didn't seem like she was not wanting to be there and edgy at moments and we have testimony of john good win. and doug joins me now a former federal prosecutor. >> thank you. >> you said you have to be careful what you are watching in this is points being put on the board very carefully. we don't have a full picture yet in terms of the way it is going....
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. >> reporter: day four started as rachel jeantel day two. racial one moment, combative the next. >> are you okay this morning? >> yeah. >> you seem different than yesterday. did someone talk to you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. >> reporter: a more subdued jean tel got questions from don west who challenged the 19-year-old's account of what she heard on the cell phone with trayvon martin a minute before the fatal shooting. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know trayvon got hit. you don't know he didn't take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir. >> reporter: moments later, when asked the same question during the grilling, the teen held firm to her account of who attacked who. >> i thought you said it could have been, for all you know, trayvon martin smashing george zimmerman in the face is what you actually heard? >> what? >> yeah. earlier today. >> by who? >> by you. >> you didn't get that from me. >> the woman whose 911 call captured the
. >> reporter: day four started as rachel jeantel day two. racial one moment, combative the next. >> are you okay this morning? >> yeah. >> you seem different than yesterday. did someone talk to you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. >> reporter: a more subdued jean tel got questions from don west who challenged the 19-year-old's account of what she heard on the cell phone with trayvon martin a minute before the fatal shooting. >>...
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for "good morning america," rachel smith, abc news, california. >> paula faris, what was your favorite house in that thing? >> the tree house. though, you know what? nothing could really compare -- >> not the beer barrel? >> i didn't see a wine cellar. potentially that. but nothing compared to "swiss family robinson." i want to live in a tree. >> a come's got to have her fantasies. >>> they're calling it the son of cronuts. paula is calling it a cro-postor. we're going to taste test. fixations up after this break. that instantly brightens skin. and helps reduce the look of brown spots in just 4 weeks. for healthy radiant skin. try it for a month. then go ahead and try to spot a spot. aveeno® positively radiant. naturally beautiful results. >>> and it is time for "fixation." one thing about "good morning america," i think we can all agree we like to eat. >> yes. >> we love food. here in new york city, the biggest craze is the cronut. it's fried dough. it's exhibit a from the dominique ansel bakery. fried dough. it infuss the croissant with the doughnut. people will wait in line for hou
for "good morning america," rachel smith, abc news, california. >> paula faris, what was your favorite house in that thing? >> the tree house. though, you know what? nothing could really compare -- >> not the beer barrel? >> i didn't see a wine cellar. potentially that. but nothing compared to "swiss family robinson." i want to live in a tree. >> a come's got to have her fantasies. >>> they're calling it the son of cronuts. paula is...
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rachel maddow was pointing out the voting heights story was highly consequential. the gay marriage story was viewview ed celebratory. there was a lot of happiness. the supreme court was probably mirroring public opinion and the media were mirroring the supreme court's mirroring. but the voting rights story which is very important, it's hard to visualize what might happen, what bad actions might come because of this and it was completely swept away. >> it really was swept away, and it ignored the follow-on stories that there should have been about the individual states and voter suppression acts that they are now enacting. >> it's partly the nature of television. television doesn't do policy very well and doesn't do nuance very well but it does stories very well. >> pictures and emotions, all of that. >> it does individuals very well. and gay rights, there were real stories and real emotion. >> let me put up some numbers by the pew research center before the high court ruling. these were stories dealing with same-sex marriage. if you look at msnbc, the comments, 64%
rachel maddow was pointing out the voting heights story was highly consequential. the gay marriage story was viewview ed celebratory. there was a lot of happiness. the supreme court was probably mirroring public opinion and the media were mirroring the supreme court's mirroring. but the voting rights story which is very important, it's hard to visualize what might happen, what bad actions might come because of this and it was completely swept away. >> it really was swept away, and it...
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. >> 19-year-old rachel gentel back on the stand. this time appearing more subdued but as the day progressed her answers grew more intense. >> yes, sir. >> she testified she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed by george zimmerman. she told jurors an attorney for trayvon martin's family first asked her if race was a factor that night. she was asked about that again in court thursday. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> and that's because he described him as a creepy [ bleep ] cracker. >> yes. >> but on thursday she testified she omitted that description in a letter to trayvon martin's mother. >> of course you wouldn't say it to sabrina fulton because it was offensive, correct? >> yes, that was disrespectful. >> also in question, the last thing she heard. >> get off, get off. >> she testified she heard the words get off, get off, before the phone went dead. but she also said this. >> so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something
. >> 19-year-old rachel gentel back on the stand. this time appearing more subdued but as the day progressed her answers grew more intense. >> yes, sir. >> she testified she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed by george zimmerman. she told jurors an attorney for trayvon martin's family first asked her if race was a factor that night. she was asked about that again in court thursday. >> describing the person is what made...
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rachel jeantel made some points saying zimmerman was the aggressor. but the defense pointed out many inconsistencies and lied in her stories. but rolled her eyes. and yet was far less combative and much more polite. the attorney for zimmerman said she may have heard things on that phone call but she didn't see anything you don't know that trayvon got hit. you didn't know that trayvon at that moment didn't take his 50s and drive the into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir. >> reporter: after court martin's parents' attorney said they were very proud of jeantel's appearance. claiming her testimony took zimmerman's defense claim and blew it up. have you * she corroborated what she said. those are major issues. >> reporter: we are beginning with a bench conference with judge debra nelson. this is day five of this much-watched murder trial and still to be called is the state's lead investigator as well as the medical examiner who did trayvon martin's autopsy. martha: the courtroom has been packed since this trial began. the seat inside is a hot co
rachel jeantel made some points saying zimmerman was the aggressor. but the defense pointed out many inconsistencies and lied in her stories. but rolled her eyes. and yet was far less combative and much more polite. the attorney for zimmerman said she may have heard things on that phone call but she didn't see anything you don't know that trayvon got hit. you didn't know that trayvon at that moment didn't take his 50s and drive the into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir....
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we're talking about rachel jeantel. i'll call out a different moment of the day, selma maura saying there was a gunshot and after it the man with the black and red kt ja, the man on top moved. the man on the bottom did not, seems to establish, vinnie politan, that the person on top of the fight, the person in control was george zimmerman, and that will mean a lot in terms of can feel defense analysis. your take? >> oh, absolutely. if george zimmerman is on top and you have a witness with saying he has the red and black jacket, it's clear who is in control. how do you claim self-defense if you're on top of the person you're shooting. you have a gun, they don't have a gun. to me that was powerful, chris. what are you going to do with that danny? >> that's right, how dare you argue that in the first place. danny you're not arguing it, don't look so scared but i want to you explain it for everybody at home. if it is established that george zimmerman was in control, what would he have to do to use self-defense to get out of
we're talking about rachel jeantel. i'll call out a different moment of the day, selma maura saying there was a gunshot and after it the man with the black and red kt ja, the man on top moved. the man on the bottom did not, seems to establish, vinnie politan, that the person on top of the fight, the person in control was george zimmerman, and that will mean a lot in terms of can feel defense analysis. your take? >> oh, absolutely. if george zimmerman is on top and you have a witness with...
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and rachel is who she. but when you are who you are, the jury is free to believe part of your testimony or none of your testimony, when you contrast rachel with mr. good who testified yesterday who is very clear, very understandable, the jury probably was able to find him more credible than rachel. even though you may find her likable, you may find her candor -- you might find it really appealing. but ultimately, it's about credibility. whether or not you think someone's falsifying, this is probably -- rachel's probably someone that just isn't credible. >> okay. so let's bring the conversation back to race 'hoand how this ha become a pacter in the trial. when rachel jeantel said on the stand that she didn't think cracker was a racial slur. it was just something that kids say. and she claimed that trayvon martin called zimmerman a cracker. that really did inject race into this case. if you talk to trayvon martin's family, especially his stepmother who was on anderson cooper last night, she thinks this case h
and rachel is who she. but when you are who you are, the jury is free to believe part of your testimony or none of your testimony, when you contrast rachel with mr. good who testified yesterday who is very clear, very understandable, the jury probably was able to find him more credible than rachel. even though you may find her likable, you may find her candor -- you might find it really appealing. but ultimately, it's about credibility. whether or not you think someone's falsifying, this is...
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rachel jeantel's testimony is incredibly important. being the last person to have any interaction with trayvon martin and being able to say, trayvon knew he was being followed, i think is a huge part and probably one of the biggest takeaways from this week was rachel jeantel saying trayvon knew he was being followed and tried to lose whomever this individual was. he said to her, "he is behind the." i think of the individual is able to take her testimony and drive home the point that ,rayvon was not the aggressor but the other way around, or if they're able to say maybe there for don west to say, maybe there is a chance that trayvon martin walked up to zimmerman and kind of picked a fight. i think there were some really inconsistencies of what took place. up until now, we have only had audio and a small amount of evidence for individuals to do on their own. ,> rachel jeantel's testimony that was probably the most dramatic part of the first days of the trial. the prosecution, as you would expect of her prosecution, was extremely confront
rachel jeantel's testimony is incredibly important. being the last person to have any interaction with trayvon martin and being able to say, trayvon knew he was being followed, i think is a huge part and probably one of the biggest takeaways from this week was rachel jeantel saying trayvon knew he was being followed and tried to lose whomever this individual was. he said to her, "he is behind the." i think of the individual is able to take her testimony and drive home the point that...
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how is rachel doing as a witness? i would imagine she's been instructed to answer as little as possible, yes, sir or no, sir. >> yes. on kroengs that's exactly the way you're supposed to answer and today she's adding in sir and even mr. west in a sign of respect for the defense attorney. he's now boring in on probably the most important testimony. she said she heard trayvon martin say "get off get off." mr. west is pointing out this is inconsistent. >> is west being a bit combative anticipates few moments ago when he was pressing her on whether or not she could attest to the fact that trayvon didn't make some sort of physical motion towards zimmerman? >> i think his demeanor has been pretty patient, pretty good. but she's doing better today. and one thing i think is coming across that may be very difficult for the defense to shake. i think this witness is convincing the jury that trayvon martin was, in fact, being pursued by george zimmerman. now the separate question of whether it was trayvon martin who said "get off
how is rachel doing as a witness? i would imagine she's been instructed to answer as little as possible, yes, sir or no, sir. >> yes. on kroengs that's exactly the way you're supposed to answer and today she's adding in sir and even mr. west in a sign of respect for the defense attorney. he's now boring in on probably the most important testimony. she said she heard trayvon martin say "get off get off." mr. west is pointing out this is inconsistent. >> is west being a bit...
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and again, rachel jeantel, more composed than the first day on the witness stand. but seven, long hours being grilled, what did it do to the prosecution's case? >> she's a flawed witness. this is not the witness that you want if you're the prosecution. and this is the last person who spoke to trayvon martin. there are inconsistencies in her story. as you heard, she was attacked, again and again, on cross-examination. with that said, you saw that section there where she talks about the fact that she can't read cursive. she doesn't seem educated. but don't underestimate her. she was still smart. the defense attorney was trying to ask her questions to get her to admit things but she caught it. and she said, that's not what i said. so, while she's not someone is worldly, so to speak, she understood what she was being asked and she understood the questions. and she took on the defense attorney, again and again, as he was trying to question her. >> now, we have called rachel jeantel the most important witness for the prosecution's case. but there was more testimony yeste
and again, rachel jeantel, more composed than the first day on the witness stand. but seven, long hours being grilled, what did it do to the prosecution's case? >> she's a flawed witness. this is not the witness that you want if you're the prosecution. and this is the last person who spoke to trayvon martin. there are inconsistencies in her story. as you heard, she was attacked, again and again, on cross-examination. with that said, you saw that section there where she talks about the...
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her age, immaterial. >> rod vereen, attorney for rachel jeantel. thank you so much for your time tonight. and let me say i think that the attacks that i've heard on rachel jeantel have been nothing short of offensive to any american that wants to see young people, teenagers, people that are minors do the right thing and come forward, no matter what happens in this trial. if people come forward, they out not be ridiculed. they ought not in any way be given the treatment this young lady was given. she has given a statement, and the central part of the statement has not changed that really deals with what happened in this case. whether the jury believes or not, we'll seattle. but to castigate her, to characterize her, to stereotype her and use all kinds of attacks i think is something that does an injustice to the criminal justice system, and only leads to what attorney vereen said, making people say i'm not going to come forward. i'm not going to help the system try to find justice because i will become a target rather than a help. >>> still ahead, i
her age, immaterial. >> rod vereen, attorney for rachel jeantel. thank you so much for your time tonight. and let me say i think that the attacks that i've heard on rachel jeantel have been nothing short of offensive to any american that wants to see young people, teenagers, people that are minors do the right thing and come forward, no matter what happens in this trial. if people come forward, they out not be ridiculed. they ought not in any way be given the treatment this young lady was...
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that's exactly what has been happening to rachel. we are watching this show, right, as if it is a movie, right? we're watching it like "law & order" and "csi" and all these things and saying, this is my inter entertainment. this is a young girl who lost her best friend while she was on the phone with him and didn't go to a funeral. they twist that into a lie they told. i don't know how many 19 years old can go to a funeral and see their friend lying in a coffin with their friend they were just on the phone with. >> what we see in popular culture, expectations certain kinds of bodies will experience certain things. an overweight dark skinned black woman's friend being dead, isn't that what she expected out of life? since those are the stories we tell, we think that is the story she expects to live. >> there's also a deeper historical problem here. first of all, this is a case where it's clear we are not as far along the post civil rights yellow brick road as we think we are. >> lots of evidence of that this week. >> a kind of fantasti
that's exactly what has been happening to rachel. we are watching this show, right, as if it is a movie, right? we're watching it like "law & order" and "csi" and all these things and saying, this is my inter entertainment. this is a young girl who lost her best friend while she was on the phone with him and didn't go to a funeral. they twist that into a lie they told. i don't know how many 19 years old can go to a funeral and see their friend lying in a coffin with...
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>> rachel. i thought it was very significant, but tucker, in a larger sense, i think what's happening in the zimmerman case is we're look at this, it's almost like a racial rorschach test. i think black people looked at her testimony, the 19-year-old semi literal girlfriend in a sympathetic way. she used words, some offensive, like the white cracker stuff, allegedly uttered by trayvon about george zimmerman who was tracking trayvon that night. she had some statements that if you put yourself -- i said this, here. let me full stuff. this is the opposite of the o. j. simpson case. in the o. j. simpson case, you had a black accused of killing two whites before an all black jury and it divided the nation racially. this is different. here you have a white, or hispanic, white in the minds of many, a white accused of killing a black with an all white essentially, all white jury. and i think -- i can't imagine how the five white ladies on that six-lady jury can look at rachel and identify with her in th
>> rachel. i thought it was very significant, but tucker, in a larger sense, i think what's happening in the zimmerman case is we're look at this, it's almost like a racial rorschach test. i think black people looked at her testimony, the 19-year-old semi literal girlfriend in a sympathetic way. she used words, some offensive, like the white cracker stuff, allegedly uttered by trayvon about george zimmerman who was tracking trayvon that night. she had some statements that if you put...
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the "rachel maddow show" begins right now. >>> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. it's election day in massachusetts. went to the polls. the polls in massachusetts closed almost exactly one hour ago. and as far as we know, right now, it's undecided. 49% of the vote in. right now ed markey leads gabriel gomez 51% to 48%. again, that is 49% of the vote in at this point. mo cowan was picked essentially as a place holder for the seat by massachusetts governor deval patrick. mr. cowan promised not to run for the seat on a permanent basis. he's spent his months on capitol hill essentially keeping his head down, keeping the business of the massachusetts senate seat rolling. he's been voting basically the way john kerry would have voted and been keeping the seat warm for the dually elected next u.s. senator from massachusetts who has been chosen by the voters of massachusetts today. again, the polls close the an hour and a minute ago. we'll keep you posted as we get senate, on the house side of capitol hill today, today was the day when they had to make a decision about st
the "rachel maddow show" begins right now. >>> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. it's election day in massachusetts. went to the polls. the polls in massachusetts closed almost exactly one hour ago. and as far as we know, right now, it's undecided. 49% of the vote in. right now ed markey leads gabriel gomez 51% to 48%. again, that is 49% of the vote in at this point. mo cowan was picked essentially as a place holder for the seat by massachusetts governor...
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her name is rachel jeantel. she's the last person trayvon martin talked to before his altercation with george zimmerman on the night of february 26th, 2012. she was on the phone with martin, and the moments before that altercation, an altercation which ended with trayvon martin dead. george zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting and killing of trayvon martin. zimmerman has pled not guilty, claiming he killed martin in self-defense. rachel jeantel is in the unfortunate position of being caught in the middle of it. and even in direct examination, jeantel's testimony got off to a rocky start. >> and i know you grew up in a haitian family, so make sure that everybody can hear you try to speak as clear and -- >> can you repeat what your answer was, please? >> when defense attorney don west began cross-examination, what took place was an excruciating and at times, if i can editorialize, infuriating process by which the defense tried to impeach and impugn her. there's little doubt rachel jeantel
her name is rachel jeantel. she's the last person trayvon martin talked to before his altercation with george zimmerman on the night of february 26th, 2012. she was on the phone with martin, and the moments before that altercation, an altercation which ended with trayvon martin dead. george zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting and killing of trayvon martin. zimmerman has pled not guilty, claiming he killed martin in self-defense. rachel jeantel is in the unfortunate...
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back to rachel jeantel, this has been the story. the treatment of her not only in court but outside of court as well, sort of people making fun of her, lo lo jones now piling on, comparing her to precious, the character in that film. do you think the way rachl jeantel's being treated outside give negative implications for what might happen with those six jurors if they're seeing it the same way? >> i think it could. the thing sometimes we see of rape victims and shaming? people on twitter are feeling like an attack on jeantel is an attack on people from this community. is it a referendum on her diction and her dram mar and manner of speech and the cloak wallisms and slang she and trayvon martin uses especially referring to race? having this jury of five white women, it would be interested to see whether they are buying her story and credibility or if it was damaged by their filtered perceptions of who this person is and who maybe trayvon martin is. >> that was the culture piece we were talking about a little bit yesterday. you have
back to rachel jeantel, this has been the story. the treatment of her not only in court but outside of court as well, sort of people making fun of her, lo lo jones now piling on, comparing her to precious, the character in that film. do you think the way rachl jeantel's being treated outside give negative implications for what might happen with those six jurors if they're seeing it the same way? >> i think it could. the thing sometimes we see of rape victims and shaming? people on twitter...
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rachel jeantel has been on stand for the past two days. do you think her testimony went well for the defense? because she was really billed as the prosecution's star witness. do you think it's worked in the defense's favor? >> well, you know, i think that she was a reticent witness, i don't think she wanted to be involved and waited so long and found out by happenstance. i was most concerned not with her testimony but the way she started with mr. crump's interview, off record without law enforcement there and more problematic, the interview, she's sitting right next to trayvon martin's mother when she's supposed to give her first sworn law enforcement statement and in that statement she didn't tell the truth on a number of issues. i think she didn't want to be there. she was reluctant and i think that reluctancy showed up in her testimony today and yesterday. >> and stressing in the court todd ant the presence of trayvon martin's mother during that interview with law enforcement, to you that says what? that there's potential that either sh
rachel jeantel has been on stand for the past two days. do you think her testimony went well for the defense? because she was really billed as the prosecution's star witness. do you think it's worked in the defense's favor? >> well, you know, i think that she was a reticent witness, i don't think she wanted to be involved and waited so long and found out by happenstance. i was most concerned not with her testimony but the way she started with mr. crump's interview, off record without law...
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rachel maddow, host of the "rachel maddow show" here, joe green, professor, ken jioshino, president clinton's top adviser, and former president of equality matters. great to have you here. momentous day, rachel has there been a bigger day for gay rights? >> sometimes you don't know they're coming when they're coming. i'm not sure everyone thought lawrence v texas was going to be what it was. >> ten years ago today. >> hard to know. it is possible the supreme court justices will find a way to sort of split the baby here and come up with a decision that is not as consequence in either direction everyone is expecting. >> we are going to a special report. nbc's pete williams live at the supreme court. >> reporter: the supreme court has just struck down the federal defense of marriage act. this was the law passed by congress in 1996, signed by president clinton, that prevented the federal government from recognizing the validity of same-sex marriages in the states where they're legal. it's a 5-4 decision, written by justice anthony kennedy. and the interesting thing here is that the court has said
rachel maddow, host of the "rachel maddow show" here, joe green, professor, ken jioshino, president clinton's top adviser, and former president of equality matters. great to have you here. momentous day, rachel has there been a bigger day for gay rights? >> sometimes you don't know they're coming when they're coming. i'm not sure everyone thought lawrence v texas was going to be what it was. >> ten years ago today. >> hard to know. it is possible the supreme court...
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what do you think of rachel and the fact that she's almost universally criticized? >> well she's not universally criticized, i have to tell you this. they have not what we expected. she's this coffee colored perfectly coifed young lady who was so cool and so composed. we did not expect trayvon's girlfriend who we had been hearing about for the past year to be so dark and lovely. we're in a looks driven society and still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark, dark skinned people but beyond that -- >> but what about her manner? >> her manner, her defiance was stunning to people but she was standing her ground. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague with the other guest that this was a tremendous burden for this young woman although she's 19 now, she was a child then and i still consider thoeshher to be child. she's the star witness. she can put someone away for life. she's trying to figure it out how it is the police told this man to stay in the car and trayvon ended up dead. >> don west posted this instagram, we pate stupidity. cele
what do you think of rachel and the fact that she's almost universally criticized? >> well she's not universally criticized, i have to tell you this. they have not what we expected. she's this coffee colored perfectly coifed young lady who was so cool and so composed. we did not expect trayvon's girlfriend who we had been hearing about for the past year to be so dark and lovely. we're in a looks driven society and still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark, dark skinned people but beyond...
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the defense tried to chip away at the credibility of rachel jeantel. she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin before he was killed. zimmerman's attorney challenged testimony which portrayed his client as the aggressor. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't do that, do you? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he could -- he had -- >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face. >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> the defense also exposed jeantel's inability to read a letter, forcing her to admit that she could not understand cursive. >>> we're learning more now about the alleged motive behind the boston marathon bombing. authorities say dzhokhar tsarnaev scrawled what amounts to a confession on the inside of that boat where he was found, and it says, "stop killing our innocent people and we will stop." the information is contained in a 30-count indictment. it charges tsarnaev with murder and using a weapon of mass destruction. >>> wow. the obamas are in
the defense tried to chip away at the credibility of rachel jeantel. she was on the phone with 17-year-old trayvon martin before he was killed. zimmerman's attorney challenged testimony which portrayed his client as the aggressor. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't do that, do you? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he could -- he had -- >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face....
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our own rachel nichols is standing by live. stand by for that. >>> also, more financial fallout for paula deen, despite her apology for a racial slur. "i'm part of an american success story," "that starts with one of the world's most advanced distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly with manufacturers," "eliminating costly markups," "and buy directly from local farmers in every region of the country." "when you see our low prices, remember the wheels turning behind the scenes, delivering for millions of americans, everyday. "dedication: that's the real walmart" starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. good thing she's got the citi simplicity card. it doesn't charge late fees or a penalty rate, ever. because she's got other things to stress about. ♪ go to citi.com/simplicity to apply. â™
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rachel gentle was on the phone with trayvon martin the moment he was shot. lisa bloom will join us to discuss this key testimony. >>> and another company dumped paula deen just as she tearfully apologizes on the "today" show this morning. it was her first live interview, but the question today, did she do more harm than good? [ panting ] we're headed the same way, right? yeah. ♪ [ panting ] uh... after you. ♪ [ sighs ] [ male announcer ] it's all in how you get there. the srx, from cadillac. awarded best interior design of any luxury brand. lease this 2013 cadillac srx for around $399 per month, with premium care maintenance included. "that starts with one of the world's most advancedy," distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly with manufacturers," "eliminating costly markups," "and buy directly from local farmers in every region of the country." "when you see our low prices, remember the wheels turning behind the scenes, delivering for millions of americans, everyday. "
rachel gentle was on the phone with trayvon martin the moment he was shot. lisa bloom will join us to discuss this key testimony. >>> and another company dumped paula deen just as she tearfully apologizes on the "today" show this morning. it was her first live interview, but the question today, did she do more harm than good? [ panting ] we're headed the same way, right? yeah. ♪ [ panting ] uh... after you. ♪ [ sighs ] [ male announcer ] it's all in how you get there. the...
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what do you think of rachel and the fact she is universally criticized? >> i have to tell you she was not what we expected. this is so composed young lady. we didn't expected trayvon's girlfriend to be so dark and so lovely. we are in a look serving society. we still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark skinned people. beyond that... her manner, her defiance was stunning to people. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague by other guest this was a tremendous burden for this young woman, although she is 19 she was child then. she has a tremendous responsibility. she is the star witness. she could put someone away for life. she is trying to figure how it is the police told this man stay in the car and her friend ended up dead. >> judge jeanine: the person that cross-examined her, we beat stupidity, celebration cones. is this case about race? >> you know what, they want to deny that it is not about race. when i heard this most recent press conference but it does come down to race. it comes down to race to profiling but it's
what do you think of rachel and the fact she is universally criticized? >> i have to tell you she was not what we expected. this is so composed young lady. we didn't expected trayvon's girlfriend to be so dark and so lovely. we are in a look serving society. we still have a lot of contempt for dark, dark skinned people. beyond that... her manner, her defiance was stunning to people. she was determined to tell trayvon's story. i can agree with my colleague by other guest this was a...
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. >> rachel maddow who will have much more to say on the "rachel maddow show" tonight. i said it would be an all-star panel, thanks to all of you, as well as to pete williams. that's going to do it for me. i'm chris jansing. that's it for "jansing & company." thomas roberts next. >> our agenda coming up, the historic day we have been watching the past hour in the supreme court. >> the supreme court has declared the defense of marriage act, the federal defense of marriage act, unconstitutional. the supreme court has decided that it cannot take up the challenge to california's proposition 8. i must say, this is also a great way for the supreme court not to have to decide the issue of same-sex marriage. it gives them an off-ramp. >> and there we have it. that was nbc justice correspondent, pete williams, minutes ago, announcing two labtd mark decisions from the united states supreme court with unprecedented impact on gay rights in this country. right now we're looking at live pictures from outside the high court as the biggest crowd that we have seen so far this week is th
. >> rachel maddow who will have much more to say on the "rachel maddow show" tonight. i said it would be an all-star panel, thanks to all of you, as well as to pete williams. that's going to do it for me. i'm chris jansing. that's it for "jansing & company." thomas roberts next. >> our agenda coming up, the historic day we have been watching the past hour in the supreme court. >> the supreme court has declared the defense of marriage act, the federal...
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they may not be sure what to make of rachel jeantel. but they believe trayvon martin was followed, was pursued by george zimmerman. and whatever else after that happened came about because george zimmerman ignore addis patcher and went looking for this guy. >> because of the focus on jeantel, i want to play just a little bit of sound from it. let's take a look at this exchange with the defense attorney. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not. >> why you need to lie about that, sir? >> maybe if he decided to assault george zimmerman, he didn't want you to know about it? >> that's absolutely retarded, sir. >> i'm sorry? >> that's really retarded to do that, sir. >> dana, there are some people who criticized don west for being really tough in rachel jeantel on how he questioned her. how tough to go given the age of the person on the witness stand and given the way that you as the attorney, as well as the person on the stand has to come across? >> i think as a defense attorney as it relates to each and every wit
they may not be sure what to make of rachel jeantel. but they believe trayvon martin was followed, was pursued by george zimmerman. and whatever else after that happened came about because george zimmerman ignore addis patcher and went looking for this guy. >> because of the focus on jeantel, i want to play just a little bit of sound from it. let's take a look at this exchange with the defense attorney. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not. >>...
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rachel jeantel was on the phone with martin the moments before the altercation. we heard today during five hours of testimony the defense tore into her version of what she heard on the phone. >> so the last think you heard was some kind of noise, like something hitting somebody? >> trayvon got hit -- trayvon got hit -- >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit? you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face? >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> martin savidge is outfront at the courthouse in sanford, florida. you heard zimmerman's lawyer trying to get the door to open about trayvon martin being the aggressor. >> i think he did a good job there. he did two things there. number one, he got her to admit that, well, maybe she didn't know as confidently as she thought she did the chain of events. the other thing s. he also interjected there the defense's narration, in other words,
rachel jeantel was on the phone with martin the moments before the altercation. we heard today during five hours of testimony the defense tore into her version of what she heard on the phone. >> so the last think you heard was some kind of noise, like something hitting somebody? >> trayvon got hit -- trayvon got hit -- >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit? you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist...
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rachel jeantel is the 19-year-old friend on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed. testimony she gave yesterday elevated the racial component of the trail after she said that trayvon described zimmerman as a, quote, cracker. today the defense revisited that issue. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this. >> no. >> you don't think hats a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> not racial? okay. according to jeantel, that's apparently just how people talk. >> my question is, do you recall mr. west asking you that trayvon martin referred to the man that was following him as a creepy white cracker? >> yes, sir, sir. >> and to you is that a derogatory or is that the way people speak in your culture, your age group? >> objection. leading. suggesting an answer. >> overruled. >> yes, sir. >> at another point today, the defense grilled jea
rachel jeantel is the 19-year-old friend on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed. testimony she gave yesterday elevated the racial component of the trail after she said that trayvon described zimmerman as a, quote, cracker. today the defense revisited that issue. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was...
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at first rachel jeantel became emotional when questioned about why she lied. she said she was in the hospital and couldn't go to her friend's funeral. >> i didn't want to see the body. >> reporter: she told the prosecutors martin used racial slurs to explain the man following him. creepy. jeantel told martin to run, but then the phone went dead. when she called back, martin said he was still being watched and then confronted. he said, why are are you foll following me for? calling trayvon, vavon. then i heard trayvon saying, get off, get off. >> reporter: then the tone of her testimony changed when cross examined by defense team and at times having -- >> i had told you -- you listening? >> reporter: the 19-year-old admitted she lied about her age. claiming to be 16 at the time of the shooting because she didn't want to be questioned. she said she didn't call police to tell her account because she expected police to contact her like they do on the tv shows. then, there is the issue of the audio recording the witness made with attorney ben crump. he played pub l
at first rachel jeantel became emotional when questioned about why she lied. she said she was in the hospital and couldn't go to her friend's funeral. >> i didn't want to see the body. >> reporter: she told the prosecutors martin used racial slurs to explain the man following him. creepy. jeantel told martin to run, but then the phone went dead. when she called back, martin said he was still being watched and then confronted. he said, why are are you foll following me for? calling...
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i think that rachel was a great, great witness. and i think that as we move forward we will hear from other people. >> laura: how was she a great witness? >> she was an excellent witness. she was an excellent witness. she stuck to her story. she stuck. >> laura: she changed her story. >> whether or not people understood -- whether or not people understood what she was saying, she stuck with it and she told the truth from her perspective. >> laura. >> laura: she changed her story. i understood everything she said. >> she -- >> laura: guys, she is not on trial. it's just that she is a witness for the prosecution. and she ultimately will be helpful or not helpful to the prosecution. that's all that's involved with, you know, ms. jeantel. >> i think she was very helpful for the prosecution because she proved. >> exactly. she was great. >> he was the aggressor. >> that's right. >> laura: michael and jasmine i think her credibility got absolutely hammered yesterday. we will see. directly ahead, fans of paula deen are racing to buy her co
i think that rachel was a great, great witness. and i think that as we move forward we will hear from other people. >> laura: how was she a great witness? >> she was an excellent witness. she was an excellent witness. she stuck to her story. she stuck. >> laura: she changed her story. >> whether or not people understood -- whether or not people understood what she was saying, she stuck with it and she told the truth from her perspective. >> laura. >> laura:...
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rachel jeantel. here's some sound from this week in court. >> pumps. these [ bleep ] holes always get away. >> knock-knock, who is there? >> you can can go. you can go. >> the persons on top in a mounted position. >> you don't think that creepy [ bleep ] is a racial comment? >> no. >> let's bring in our guest, jeff has covered the george zimmerman case from the very beginning for the orlando sentinel. and rich benjamin is a senior fellow at dimos. rich, i want to start with you. the racial undertones, six and a half hours on the stand and a contentious back and forth as i mentioned. and very uncomfortable i think for a lot of people in this country. that's what sparked this conversation. it was race and class. give me your thoughts about it. what you saw. >> it was horrific to watch for me personally. a lot of this testimony, because it is coming in the context of this week. and we've seen the vra case decision. we've seen the paula deen case. so the reactions to the trial specifically against rachel, they had a lot of dog whistle racism. you have to l
rachel jeantel. here's some sound from this week in court. >> pumps. these [ bleep ] holes always get away. >> knock-knock, who is there? >> you can can go. you can go. >> the persons on top in a mounted position. >> you don't think that creepy [ bleep ] is a racial comment? >> no. >> let's bring in our guest, jeff has covered the george zimmerman case from the very beginning for the orlando sentinel. and rich benjamin is a senior fellow at dimos. rich,...
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"the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> did you say on his knees? >> i didn't. google it, america. it's called "on our knees for america." >> god bless you chris hayes. >>> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. amazing. it frequently seems as if congress can't do anything. today they did. the united states senate really did pass an immigration reform bill. this is a huge deal. you could tell this was a huge deal by watching the way in which they physically cast their votes. typically when the senate votes, they wander around and chat each other up and the place kind of looks like half a garden party, half a bus depot. but today, senate majority leader harry reid had the members of the united states senate stay formally at their desks and vote from their desks. that is how you know they think this is a really big vote. this is the eyes of the nation are upon you stuff. and also, vice president biden, as vice president, he is technically the president of the senate. he also exercised his right to preside over the senate today for this vote. as the senate passed immigra
"the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> did you say on his knees? >> i didn't. google it, america. it's called "on our knees for america." >> god bless you chris hayes. >>> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. amazing. it frequently seems as if congress can't do anything. today they did. the united states senate really did pass an immigration reform bill. this is a huge deal. you could tell this was a huge deal by watching the way...